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30 November 2008

British Update: Adventure 1951-54, Hotspur 1961-65, Hornet, Bullet, Thunder, Jet, Fleetway Stupendous & Secret Agent, Battle & War Picture Library Holiday Specials, file copy Wild West Pic Lib #1, Knockout 1952, Shiver & Shake, Jackie & Diana

An absolutely gargantuan update to our British stocks this week as we reap the benefits of our shop reorganisation and start to fill up all the space we've created. Hundreds of new items in the following categories:

*Boys’ Adventure and War Comics: Two substantial DC Thomson updates, beginning with 200 issues of Adventure, 1951-1954, featuring 'The Outlaw Sheriff', 'Strang the Invincible', 'Solo Solomon' and similar plucky fighters against heathen beastliness, admirably backed up by comedy eccentrics like 'Baldy the Whistler'. We then have 40+ issues of Hotspur, from 1961 to 1965, with the adventures of 'The Wolf Of Kabul', 'Mick & Mack, the Battersea Battlers', and 'The Alaska Postman' – bet that one was a rip-snorter! Plus early Hornet (from #2), additional Bullet, and two short-lived titles, Thunder (#2) and Jet, from 1970 and 1971 respectively. Thunder and Jet are incredibly sought after, having almost been cancelled before they started, so we don’t expect these to hang around long!

*Boys’ Adventure and War Picture Libraries: We have one very unusual item this week, the debut issue from 1966 of the popular and long-running Wild West Picture Library. This original file copy from Fleetway’s archive features not only an exceptionally nice copy of the comic, but also PMT proofs
(Pre-Mechanical Transfer - it’s what they had before photocopies) of all 64 interior pages. Sold securely in a firm (but openable!) plastic case for protection. We also have additions to our Fleetway Super Library in the Stupendous and Secret Agent ranges, starring the Steel Claw and Barracuda, a rare issue of S.A.T.A.N. Picture Library (it stands for Spies Anonymous To All Nations, so sadly no antics of the Lord of Hell for all you Satanists out there…), and additions to Battle and War Picture Library Holiday Specials.

*Humour Comics & Picture Libraries: A fistful of Knockout from 1952. The home of Billy Bunter for decades before he migrated to Valiant, Knockout oscillated between emphasising its funnies and its adventure strips, but this period was definitely more oriented towards the humour, with 'Stonehenge Kit, The Ancient Brit' and 'The Beaver Patrol' (they were Scouts – what did you think they were?) and their ilk outnumbering the stoic exploits of 'Sexton Blake'. Plus, yet more Shiver & Shake! The poltergeist & pachyderm pair presented their own pages in the ‘combo’ comic, but the limelight was regularly stolen by more popular creations such as 'Frankie Stein' and 'Sweeny Toddler', though some of Shiver & Shake’s lesser-known series like 'Moana Lisa' and 'Gal Capone' were still fun. Twenty new issues added to our stock from 1973 and 1974.

*Girls’ Comics: Batten down the hatches and prepare to learn more than you ever wanted to know about the Glitter Band! Yep, it’s Jackie time, 60+ issues from 1973 to 1976, the era of flicks, flares, and Flintlock, so climb into your platforms and boogie on down to the disco with these oversized mags that interspersed romance comic strips with articles about boys, bras and the BCRs (and if you have to ask what that stands for, you shouldn’t be reading this…) We also added 50 issues of Diana ranging from 1964 to 1976, but skewing heavily towards the higher date range, when it changed gears from being a traditional ‘jolly schoolgirls’ comic to being a Jackie-clone, with make-up tips and pin-ups of ‘pop hunks’. It was kind of hard to tell the difference between Diana and Jackie in the latter days, which made Di’s 1976 absorption into Jackie all the more painless.

Posted by Rob | 04:36 p.m. GMT | 30 November 2008

American Update: 1940s/50s pre-code horror, Tarzan/ERB, Undergrounds and Modern Sets

Once again, our shop reorganisation has led to a bigger American update this week as well as follows:

*Horror 1940-1959: A plethora of low to mid grade (and very affordable) Pre-and Post-Code horror goodies and ghoulies this time, with Atlas heavily represented by Adventures Into Weird Worlds, Marvel Tales, Mystery Tales, Mystic, and Uncanny Tales. Additional gore is supplied by ACG’s Out of the Night, Charlton’s Tales of the Mysterious Traveler (with Ditko!), the one-off prototype Ace horror Challenge of the Unknown, and St. John’s Nightmare, with a striking Joe Kubert ‘Devil’ cover, and an unverified Murphy Anderson signature!

*Tarzan/ERB: Additions to the DC series of Korak, and an unusual item, issue #5 of the Burroughs Bulletin, a 1971 fanzine reproducing 'Mastermind of Mars', complete with two free gift prints. We’ve also included in this update our existing stock of the more modern Tarzan series from publishers such as Dark Horse and Malibu, in our ongoing attempt to fully list all comics of selected iconic characters.

*Undergrounds: A selection of seldom-seen Seventies titles, originally with very small print runs, and now increasingly scarce: Abortion Eve, All Girl Thrills, Girl Fight Comics, Trina’s Women, and the absolutely barking romance parody Manhunt!, among others. Trina Robbins, Lee Marrs, Farmer & Lyvely, and Aline Kominsky are prominent among the contributors.

*Modern Comics Complete Sets: Another selection of complete series including hit titles such as Wolverine: The End, Thanos: Infinity Abyss, Civil War: Frontline, Dr. Who, Deadpool mini-series, Eternals, Just Imagine Stan Lee Creating the DC Universe, Marvel Super-Hero Contest of Champions, and many more, including the hardcover full-colour Pin-Up trilogy reprinting a translated European ‘Good Girl Art’ classic.

Posted by Rob | 04:25 p.m. GMT | 30 November 2008

25 November 2008

Housekeeping Update

As regular visitors to our site will know, on a regular cycle, we sweep through our entire vintage stock to delete sold items and keep our listing as up to date as possible. We've just finished deleting sold items from the following files:

*AC Comics
*Archie
*Charlton
*Dell
*EC
*Gold Key/Whitman
*Harvey
*IW/Super
*Miscellaneous 1960-1980s
*Miscellaneous 1940-1959
*Horror 1940-1959

As of the time of writing, all these categories are bang up to date with every item listed available, so you may order with confidence! More soon!

Posted by Rob | 10:25 a.m. GMT | 25 November 2008

23 November 2008

British Update: A sweep of girls' titles inc. Girl, Mandy, Pixie, Sally, Suzy + housekeeping

*Girls’ Comics: More additions to both long-running and short-lease titles: the second series of Girl, from 1982 onwards, and twenty scattershot Mandy from the first year of publication, 1967, to 1972, and then Sally (1969-1971), Pixie (1972), and the evanescent Suzy, who flickered into existence for about, ooh, an hour and a half before being gobbled up by Bunty in 1982. Furthermore, in our periodic ‘housekeeping’ exercise, this section has been completely updated, with sold items deleted, so order with confidence .

And if you're wondering what's happened to our Girls' Picture Libraries, they're off being groomed and buffed up for their relaunch in their very own section coming soon, and will feature many new vintage, pre-decimal editions of favourite titles.

Posted by Rob | 11:02 p.m. GMT | 23 November 2008

American Update: Wonder Woman & many 1940s/50s misc. inc work by Wood, Everett, Baker, Schomburg and many more

Many more vintage American gems for you this week as follows:

*DC: “All the world is waiting for her…” Yes, we know we promised that the third instalment of our mammoth DC restock was going to be a general super-hero sweep, but what can we say? The power of Loving Authority will not be denied! It’s a Wonder Woman update – as if you hadn’t guessed - with 50+ issues added, ranging from the frankly loopy 'Wonder Tot and Mer-Boy' era up to the 'Dr. Cyber and I-Ching' years, when Diana discarded her costume (exchanging it for civilian clothes, you mucky urchins!) and fought crimelords, gods, monsters, sadists, spies, and stroppy carousing witches as a (somewhat more virginal) Modesty Blaise-alike. This selection of issues varies in grade from Poor, and very affordable, to VF, and very collectable! Our Wonder Woman section has also been entirely brought up to date, reflecting recent sales, so ride the air currents with confidence to Paradise Island today!

*Miscellaneous 1940-1959: A wide range of titles and genres from several publishers, including Atlas (Amazing Detective Cases, Black Knight with Joe Maneely artwork, Men’s Adventures [war-themed issues] with Everett artwork, and Riot), Sterling (After Dark, crime thrillers with very Toth-esque art by Sekowsky), Fago (Atom-Age Combat), Fox (Dagar the Desert Hawk), Premium (Target), Universal Phoenix (Seven Seas #2, with the glorious South Sea Girl by Matt Baker), Avon (Mask of Dr. Fu Manchu, primo Wally Wood from cover to cover), and Ziff-Davis (Amazing Adventures #1 & #2, science-fiction sagas with art by Schomburg, Wood, and Anderson). Cover scans of several of these titles – Amazing Adventures #1 & #2, Black Knight #3, Dagar #23, Mask of Fu Manchu #1 & only, and Seven Seas #2 – are available for inspection at our Cover Gallery; click on the links in the catalogue listing.

Posted by Rob | 02:49 p.m. GMT | 23 November 2008

16 November 2008

American Update: DC Silver Age Batman & Detective, Pre-Code Horror masterpieces inc Horrific, Mystic #1, ultra-rare Voodoo Annual and Basil Wolverton's Weird Tales Of The Future, plus modern signed and variant issues

A real star update this week for our American stock in the following categories:

*DC: This week’s entry in our massive DC restock deals with the Darknight Detective – who was considerably less dark in the 1960’s, when aliens, robots, monsters and whacky super-villains were his metier, as well as sundry Bat-garbed women, dogs, and occasional monkeys. From 1961 to 1969, this stellar selection of Batman, Detective Comics and World’s Finest includes the first Silver Age appearance (and only his third appearance in total, his first two outings having been within months of each other in 1948) of the classic villain, the Riddler. Coming soon - a massive Wonder Woman update!

*Horror 1940-1959: A selection of mid-high grade rarities in the horror field, with three issues (#6, #12 & #13) of Comic Media’s gory yet skilful Horrific, including the final issue, the very first issue of Atlas’ Mystic with a double-cover misprint keeping the lower cover virtually pristine, the rare 100-page Voodoo Annual #1, and three issues (#2, #4 & #5) of Weird Tales of the Future, a seldom-seen cult classic featuring art and covers by Basil Wolverton. #5’s 'Emergency Landing' cover (and if you know Wolverton, you’ll know which scene I’m talking about) is an iconic eye-popper, but don’t take our word for it – all of the above except Horrific #12 are available for inspection on our Cover Gallery – click the copious links in the catalogue listing, and keep an eye out (not literally, you fools!) for a further horror update of low-mid grade Pre & Post-Code items in the next couple of weeks.

*Modern Comics Signed/Variant/Rare Editions: More from Marvel, with an appealing selection of variant and sketch editions of number 1 & key issues of Cable, Civil War, Ghost Rider, Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Secret Invasion: Whose Side Are You On?, and Astonishing X-Men, as well as non-Marvel contenders Ambush Bug: Year None, Buffy, Spike, and Star Wars.

Posted by Rob | 09:27 p.m. GMT | 16 November 2008

British Update: Adventure 1949/50, Lion 1971, TV Century 21 inc Summer Extra 1966, Lady Penelope, Countdown inc #2 with free gift, Spellbound and 1950/60s girls' inc Bunty, Girls' Crystal, Girl, School Friend, Roxy & Marilyn

A really nice update to our British stock this week, featuring special issues and rarities alongside regular favourites. As always, full details may be found in the catalogue listings for this week's featured categories:

*Boys’ Adventure and War Comics: A two-pronged update this week, with the venerable D.C. Thomson weekly Adventure from the years 1949 and 1950, when plucky heroes of the Empire such as jungle crusader 'Strang The Terrible', ace detective 'Dixon Hawke', and 'Solo Solomon' (world’s first Jewish cowboy?) fought beastly ghastliness all over the world, aided and abetted by comedy relief such as 'Baldy the Whistler'. Then we move on to Lion in 1971, just post its merger with the short-lived Thunder, when the old reliables 'Paddy Payne', 'Robot Archie', and 'The Spider' were joined by 'Adam Eterno', 'Fury’s Family', 'Steel Commando', 'Black Max', and 'Phil the Fluter', all of which enjoyed much longer careers in Lion than in their parent title.

*TV Related Comics: Thunderbirds Are Go! We have TV Century 21 updated from 1966, including the ultra-rare Summer Extra for that year, Countdown from #2 (including a copy with the original free gift of four ‘Space Stamps’ to stick in #1’s wallchart), and – hold on to your seats – Lady Penelope! Only one copy, #48, but it’s the 'Thunderbirds Are Go' movie tie-in issue, and given that we’ve only had a handful of Lady Penelope in our years of trading, any appearance by Her Ladyship is cause for loyal celebration – Gawd Bless Yer, Ma’am! In addition to Lady P’s adventures, the title featured Bewitched, Marina Girl of the Sea, and the Man from U.N.C.L.E. (what was he doing there?), in a marvellous medley of stories. Images of the Countdown #2 with free gift, the Lady Penelope, and the TV 21 1966 Summer Extra are all on the website – click on the catalogue links to inspect them with your own four eyes!

*Girls’ Comics and Picture Libraries: Titles from the 1950s, 60s and 70s this week. The 1970’s are represented by Spellbound, the DC Thomson ‘spooky’ weekly, best remembered now for the space faring super-powered jailbait team, 'Supercats', who thwarted evil in figure-hugging lycra, much to the delight of their readers’ furtive dads and brothers. However, the sci-fi Supercats were untypical, in that most of Spellbound’s series were (quite well done) horror, mystery and suspense with stylish and accomplished artwork. From the 1950’s and early 1960’s, we have several titles to offer, including Bunty from 1960 and 1961, Girls’ Crystal from 1951 and 1958, classic Girl, Eagle’s ‘sister’, from as early as Vol 1 #5, and School Friend, from 1952 and 1958, sans 'Silent Three', alas, but with 'Secret Friends of the Sports Mistress', which is just as much fun! We’ve also got a couple of Roxy and Marilyn, rare romance weeklies aimed at the older girl/younger woman, with no sequential characters but plenty of nicely-drawn stories of innocent passion, often ostensibly narrated by pop stars of the time. (Wee Willie Harris and Lonnie Donegan – 'Mr. Skiffle' – to take perhaps not the best two examples.)

Posted by Rob | 09:21 p.m. GMT | 16 November 2008

9 November 2008

Shop stock expansion

Over the coming few months, we're refitting parts of the shop with new shelving and fixtures to accommodate even more back issues; by the time we're finished, we expect to be able to have approximately 100,000 back issues on display, with a considerable expansion to both our British and American stock, as we aim to be the best-stocked comic shop there is!

If you're visiting our shop in the near future, you may find some back issue sections not where they used to be, but just ask if you can't find anything, and we'll see if we can remember where we put it! (Well, we are getting on a bit...)

Posted by Rob | 06:26 p.m. GMT | 9 November 2008

British Update: Fleetway Picture Libraries and Girls' Comics Free Gift Farrago!

Classic high-demand picture libraries and rare and wacky free gifts this week as follows:

*Boys’ Adventure and War Picture Libraries: Our Fleetway Super Picture Libraries section has been entirely relisted, to reflect sales and accommodate new stock. These 132-page digests broke down into three sub-series, Fantastic/Stupendous (starring the Spider and the Steel Claw), Front Line (starring Maddock’s Marauders and Top Sergeant Ironside), and Secret Agent (starring Barracuda and Johnny Nero), with all-new adventures of our heroes. These sell very rapidly, and we don’t expect this refreshed listing to remain current for more than a week at best, so order soon.

*Girls’ Comics and Picture Libraries: A Free Gift Farrago update! It’s been a while, so here’s a broad selection of girls’ comics with the original free gifts attached. The 1980’s Marvel incarnations of Barbie and Sindy are represented (the latter being where artist Barry Kitson got his start – take it to a signing sometime and watch his smile of quiet joy…), as is Diana from 1973, Bonnie from 1974, Nikki #1, Princess (2nd series) #1 & #2, heavily festooned with images of Princess Di (buy the #2 with the 'Princess Happiness Ring', because, y’know, it worked so well for her…), more than a decade’s worth of largesse with Bunty (1988-1999), Mandy & Judy, and Misty’s third issue from 1978. The spooky and supernatural 'Wheel of Fortune Wallet', the frankly disturbing 'Please Dress Me' doll, Troll Pencil Topper, Super Sunshine Comb, Glitter Hair Clips, bracelets, bangles, badges, stickers, and a bewildering array of fifteen-to-twenty-year-old confectionery – all this tat, er, bounty can be yours! (NB: consumption of confectionery items NOT advised…)

Posted by Rob | 04:08 p.m. GMT | 9 November 2008

American Update: 50s/60s DC Superman titles, 60s/70s Young Romance, EC Modern Reprints

Further vintage items of enduring quality in this week's American update as follows:

*DC: This week’s entry in our massive DC restock takes through the wackier regions of the Superman Family, from 1958 to around 1967. Action Comics (from #280), Adventure Comics (from #280), Lois Lane (from #20), Jimmy Olsen (from #41), Superman (from #132), and Superboy (from #77), all featuring the Man of Steel and his pals & gals undergoing wild and wonderful transformations as a result of Red Kryptonite, interdimensional impishness, or simply because the editor came up with a concept after chatting with the neighbourhood children (no, really, that’s how he used to do it) and assigned the cover scene to the hapless scripter. Highlights include Fat Jimmy, Giant-Brained Lois, sundry appearances by the Legion of Super-Heroes, (including Sun Boy’s debut in Adventure #290 and the Legion’s first solo flight in Adventure #300), the short-lived Bizarro World strip (Adventure #285-299), and Lori Lemaris as a juvenile delinquent! (Of course, in 1951, her ‘Bad Girl’ routine would be limited to telling fibs and shirking chores – but still, it’s a bit odd…) This selection of more than 100 new issues ranges from Poor to VF conditions, including something for all tastes and budgets. Scans of the higher-graded items, including Adventure #280 (Bad-Girl Lori!), and Superman #132, #135, #136 and #137 may all be seen in our Cover Gallery – click on the link in the catalogue listing.

*Romance: “I’m your teacher, and I know this is wrong, but…”; A new bunch of old Young Romance, from the veteran love title’s ‘awkward years’ of 1967 to 1974, where, still constrained by the Comics Code Authority but trying to compete with ever more permissive ‘Confessions’ magazines, the surviving romance titles panicked. Offering ‘suggestive’ story titles like 'You’re Not My First!', 'The Woman Hater!', and 'My Mother…My Rival!', they spectacularly, but entertainingly, failed to deliver on their lurid promises. With often lovely artwork by Toth, Jay Scott Pike, Art Saaf, Win Mortimer and others, these transitional issues are a visual treat, as well as a compelling documentary of their time. This selection includes several of the scarce and low-distributed 52-page Giants and 100-page issues.

*Modern Reprints: More than 100 of the Gemstone EC reprints, including virtually complete runs of the classic series, Shock SuspenStories, Crime SuspenStories, Haunt of Fear and Vault of Horror, as well as the cult ‘pre-trend’ titles Crime Patrol and War Against Crime. These full-colour facsimiles on high-quality pulp paper avoid the glare and ‘slickness’ that mars some readers’ enjoyment of other EC reprints, and are the closest the average punter can come to reading the stories ‘as they were printed’. Despite the reams of material that has been written about the EC line over the years, mostly, the hype is justified. But see for yourselves – another advantage of the Gemstone reprints is that they’re still at impulse-buy prices!

Posted by Rob | 04:05 p.m. GMT | 9 November 2008

2 November 2008

British Update: Smash, high grade Monster Fun from #1 and very early Girls' Picture Libraries

A high-demand update this week, so best get your orders in quickly for any of the following:

*Power Comics: A plethora of Smash from the ‘changeover’ years, where the Marvel Heroes had left the building and been replaced by home-grown adventurers as the title was bought out by IPC/Fleetway. Enough of the old alumni survived (Swots & Blots, anyone?) to please long-time readers, but it was during this transition of 1969-1971 that several series were introduced – super-hero Tri-Man, gentleman escapologist Janus Stark, scary genius Cursitor Doom - that were well-remembered and influential, Janus Stark, especially, having a respectable ‘second life’ when Smash eventually melded into Valiant. Forty new issues added to our listings, from the second ‘new look’ issue (22/3/69), averaging FN grade.

*Humour Comics and Picture Libraries: Question: how can a website update be small and monstrous at the same time? Answer: When it’s Monster Fun! The IPC/Fleetway title ran only 73 issues from 1975-1976, following up on Shiver & Shake’s lead of a horror-themed funny weekly. It featured such bizarre but endearing creations as 'Kid Kong', 'Martina’s Monster Make-Up', 'Draculass', the eyebrow-raising 'Tom Thumbscrew- Torturer’s Apprentice', and the somewhat anomalous 'Mummy’s Boy', where the only horror on display was psychological, as a doting mum refused to let her offspring age. Startling and amusing readers nationwide, it lured them in with its pull-out posters and 'Badtime Bedtime Story' supplements, all of which ensured that years later you could almost never find an unmutilated copy! After only a year, it folded into the venerable Buster, but the fact that almost half Monster Fun’s stars relocated indicates Buster wasn’t doing so well either, to need so much new blood, and it must have been a bit of a toss-up in the offices to see which title bit the dust. It turned out to be a happy-ish ending for the Monster Fun alumni, as all of them enjoyed longer runs in the combined title than they’d had in MF, and several - such as 'X-Ray Spex' – were still appearing intermittently when Buster went to the Great Newsagents In The Sky in 2001. This update, we have fewer than thirty copies to offer you, but it’s a choice selection, including the first eight and most from the first fifteen, and the final issue, all with supplements intact and present. Owing to the lower paper quality of the average British weekly, we seldom employ grades higher than Fine on UK stock, but several of this restock are legitimate FN+, and would be called VF or even NM by other dealers. A scan of issue #1’s cover may be seen in our Cover Gallery – click the link in the catalogue listing.

*Girls’ Comics and Picture Libraries: More early Picture Libraries this week, with Bunty (from #2), Judy (from #3), Princess, and Schoolgirls’ all topped up for your perusal. Titles such as 'The Runaway Star!', 'Girl In the Mystery Cottage', 'Debbie At Drama School' and 'The Mystery of the Green Shoes' kept several generations of ballet & orphan-avid readers enthralled, and still sell briskly in these more cynical times. Order swiftly – we don’t expect to have these in our stock for long!

Posted by Rob | 11:07 a.m. GMT | 2 November 2008

American Update: DC Silver Age Horror/Mystery, Sci-Fi, Adventure, Marvel inc Tales To Astonish #5, Harvey Super-Hero titles

A very nice Silver Age re-stock this week as follows:

*DC: We’re pleased to announce another mammoth influx of vintage DC stock – too much, in fact, for any one update, so we’re pacing ourselves. Bulletins spotlighting the Superman Family, the Batman Family, and DC Super-Heroes are coming in the near future, but this time, we’re looking at the outer limits of the DC Universe, with adventure and mystery on weird planets, under the seven seas, and in the mists of time! Challengers of the Unknown, House of Mystery, House of Secrets, My Greatest Adventure, Mystery in Space, Rip Hunter Time Master, Sea Devils, Strange Adventures and Tales of the Unexpected are all updated this week, with suspense, action, and oddball wackiness in full throttle.

*Marvel: Many more from the House of Ideas this time, the stellar item being Tales to Astonish #5, predating the Marvel heroes and featuring classic Kirby & Ditko work on tales of Big-Panty Monsters striving to take over the world. But we’re certainly not ignoring the rest of the Marvel Universe, as the Avengers, Daredevil, Fantastic Four (from #26), SHIELD, Not Brand Ecch, Spider-Man (from #36), Sub-Mariner, Thor and X-Men (from #17) have all had new strings to their bows this time. A scan of the Tales to Astonish #5 may be perused in our Cover Gallery – click on the catalogue list and see for yourself – but don’t get caught by 'The Things On Easter Island!'

*Harvey: Though best remembered for its endless tales of obsessive-compulsive children – Richie Rich, Little Dot, et al – Harvey tried its hand at every genre of publishing in its lifetime, and some of its more bizarre forays into the world of superheroes are with us now, as we offer Double-Dare Adventures (featuring Bee-Man and the Gladiator), Blast-Off (with the Three Rocketeers by Kirby!), Jigsaw, Spyman, Thrill-O-Rama (the Man In Black Named Fate, and Pirana the underwater protector!), and… the Fruitman Special. Oh, come on, how many stories could you come up with where the hero’s ability to turn into one of your five-a-day, saves the day? Well, the Harvey team managed it, and threw in the adventures of Sooper Hippie and Captain Flower to boot! Whether they were actually proud of that achievement is unrecorded by history…

Posted by Rob | 11:01 a.m. GMT | 2 November 2008